Bhagavagd Gita - Session 39- Track 3902

Now, we have dealt with this question at length earlier so I am not going further into it. Then we had seen the 9th chapter where the Supreme is defined in the 4th verse:

mayā tatam idaṁ sarvaṁ jagad avyakta-mūrtinā |
mat-sthāni sarva-bhūtāni na cāhaṁ teṣv avasthitaḥ ||4|| (IX)

And the next verse:

na ca mat-sthāni bhūtāni paśya me yogam aiśvaram |
bhūta-bhṛn na ca bhūta-stho mamātmā bhūta-bhāvanaḥ ||5|| (IX)

These 2 verses once again describe the Divine, and describe the wonder and mystery of the Divine.

Now, let us see what these 2 verses deal with:

“This entire world is pervaded by Me…” Here the translation is not very correct: tatam idaṁ, means ‘that which is spun out of Me’, (not ‘pervaded’). “The whole world is spun out of Me.” mayā tatam idaṁ sarvaṁ jagad, the whole world is spun out, like the spider makes a web out of itself, the entire weaving is done by the spider and the material is also the spider’s own; that is called ‘tatam’; mayā tatam idaṁ sarvaṁ jagad, the whole world is spun out by Me; avyakta-mūrtinā, in My un-manifested form.

Then He says mat-sthāni sarva-bhūtāni: all the creatures of the world, all the things in the world; mat-sthāni, they are all located in Me; na cāhaṁ teṣv avasthitaḥ, but I am not seated in them.

We have discussed this matter at length earlier: “They are all in Me, but I am not in them”, this is the mystery of the Supreme.

And then He says:

na ca mat-sthāni bhūtāni: and yet these beings do not exists in Me. First He says ‘they are in Me’, then He says ‘they don’t exists in Me’. ‘Behold My divine mystery, paśya me yogam aiśvaram. He first said ‘they are all in Me’, now He says ‘they are not in Me’.

bhūta-bhṛn na ca bhūta-stho mamātmā bhūta-bhāvanaḥ,

“Although My spirit is the source of all beings and sustainer of the beings, yet I do not abide in them.”: I have become all this, bhūta-bhṛn, I am the bearer of all this, bhūta-stho, although I am in them; mamātmā bhūta-bhāvanaḥ, I am also Myself the one who has become the bhūta, bhūta-bhāvanaḥ, I am the bearer of the world, I am Myself the whole world, and yet I am not in them, na bhūta-stho.

So, you can see the contradiction in the statements and therefore that is the mystery of the Supreme. You know very often the question is: ‘Do you believe in God?’ And the answer is: “What kind of God do you believe in”. It is not enough to say: “Yes, I believe in God”. And when you examine this question of ‘belief in God’, the central thing is: “What kind of God do you believe in?” There are so many…